Do you remember which problem?
No, I mean it’s the attitude. It was a bunch of different boulder problems. Every day you’re going to find something new. It’s that experience of exploration.  Finding the line and then making it happen. 

I’m curious – you’ve got the passion to explore. Is it an internal search to discover something inside of you?
Certainly: you try a project something for months on end and it requires a huge amount of determination and focus. You try something that is way above your level and it requires a huge amount of dedication. In those situations, that’s when I feel the best. I feel like I’m living my purpose in my life. If I have a project that really motivates me, everything is perfectly clear. There is no confusion about what I should be doing. Everything is obvious. I’m here trying this project, that’s what I’m here to do. I need to find things that push me mentally and physically to my ultimate level. The projects are really psychological. There’s a lot learned during that journey. 

When you don’t have a line like that weighing on your thoughts, do you find it hard to figure out what you’re supposed to be doing or where you’re supposed to be?
For me, it definitely is. I’ve always followed these projects around the world. They keep me centered and grounded. Otherwise, I’m just floating around. I have nothing to anchor to. When I do have a project, it’s an anchor. It gives me a focus. When I’ve finished a hard project, I’m really ecstatic at the beginning. Then, afterwards, after the excitement wears off, then I don’t know what to do with myself. I feel kind of lost. 

I’ve had friends that have gone through university. They explain the same feeling to me. They’ve spent their entire life studying and they get out and all of a sudden, they can do anything, but they don’t know what they want to do. For me, I’m always floating, always trying to figure out where I’m supposed to be. It’s nice to have those projects. Everything feels so clear. There are no questions.