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Well, this happened. The success of the Dawn Wall ascent has been so widespread that daytime talk shows are talking about rock climbing. Here, Tommy Caldwell and Kevin Jorgeson appear on The Ellen DeGeneres Show for their first sit-down interview about the big wall. Unfortunately, the segment doesn’t end with Ellen on a climbing wall, like when Lynn Hill was on David Letterman in 1989.